357: Splinter K-второй:
Спасибо, благодаря этому треду я сегодня послушал Фо хум зе белл толлз раз рять. Твой пост был шестым.
[умничает]
а вот авторство обсуждаемой фразы принадлежит некоему английскому проповеднику 17-го века Джону Данну, именем которого в Москве назван неплохой, на мой взгляд, пивняк, где я, собственно, как-то пил пиво.
[смотрит на часы]
Кстаааати....
Хочу все знать - IX: знатокам английского
Последний раз редактировалось revik 10 фев 2015 19:25, всего редактировалось 1 раз.
360: revik:
> Спасибо, благодаря этому треду я сегодня послушал Фо хум зе белл толлз раз рять. Твой пост был шестым.
Вот! А ты представляешь, эти два ретрограда даже не понимают о чем речь!!!
> [смотрит на часы]
> Кстаааати....
Мне пить нельзя, я - пас!
> Спасибо, благодаря этому треду я сегодня послушал Фо хум зе белл толлз раз рять. Твой пост был шестым.
Вот! А ты представляешь, эти два ретрограда даже не понимают о чем речь!!!
> [смотрит на часы]
> Кстаааати....
Мне пить нельзя, я - пас!
361: Splinter K-второй:
> эти два ретрограда
[смотрит на год издания песни]
ура, я, оказывается, не ретроград
> эти два ретрограда
[смотрит на год издания песни]
ура, я, оказывается, не ретроград
362: revik:
Не, ну я мог бы заменить синонимами: обскурант, например, или даже палеофрон.
Заодно выпендрился бы своим словарным запасом (как вот сейчас выпендриваюсь).
Смысл-то не изменится.
Не, ну я мог бы заменить синонимами: обскурант, например, или даже палеофрон.
Заодно выпендрился бы своим словарным запасом (как вот сейчас выпендриваюсь).
Смысл-то не изменится.
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Е.В.Гений
- Архивариус
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361: Splinter K-второй пишет:
> ...эти два ретрограда...
[Вспоминает значение слова "ретроград"...]
РЕТРОГРАД (от латинского retrogradus - идущий назад), противник прогресса, человек с отсталыми взглядами.
[...смотрит определения других слов...]
ОБСКУРАНТ. муж., лат. враг просвещенья, народного образованья. Обскурантизм, стремленье к поддержке невежества в народе, для гнёта его. (Толковый словарь Даля. В.И. Даль. 1863-1866.)
ПАЛЕОФРОН (греч., от palaios - древний, и phronis - смысл). Человек отсталого образа мыслей. (Словарь иностранных слов, вошедших в состав русского языка.- Чудинов А.Н., 1910.)
ПАЛЕОФРОН (греч., от palaios, древний, и phronis, смысл). Человек со старыми понятиями. (Объяснение 25000 иностранных слов, вошедших в употребление в русский язык, с означением их корней.- Михельсон А.Д., 1865.)
[...и чего-то явно недопонимает.]
А вообще, Ретроград - это скорее городок декораций в Подмосковье
> ...эти два ретрограда...
[Вспоминает значение слова "ретроград"...]
РЕТРОГРАД (от латинского retrogradus - идущий назад), противник прогресса, человек с отсталыми взглядами.
[...смотрит определения других слов...]
ОБСКУРАНТ. муж., лат. враг просвещенья, народного образованья. Обскурантизм, стремленье к поддержке невежества в народе, для гнёта его. (Толковый словарь Даля. В.И. Даль. 1863-1866.)
ПАЛЕОФРОН (греч., от palaios - древний, и phronis - смысл). Человек отсталого образа мыслей. (Словарь иностранных слов, вошедших в состав русского языка.- Чудинов А.Н., 1910.)
ПАЛЕОФРОН (греч., от palaios, древний, и phronis, смысл). Человек со старыми понятиями. (Объяснение 25000 иностранных слов, вошедших в употребление в русский язык, с означением их корней.- Михельсон А.Д., 1865.)
[...и чего-то явно недопонимает.]
А вообще, Ретроград - это скорее городок декораций в Подмосковье
364: Е.В.Гений:
> человек с отсталыми взглядами.
> Человек отсталого образа мыслей.
Ну и обскурант, синонимы:
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dic_syno ... 0%BD%D1%82
Палефорон, синонимы:
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dic_syno ... 0%BE%D0%BD
Все три слова - синонимы.
> человек с отсталыми взглядами.
> Человек отсталого образа мыслей.
Ну и обскурант, синонимы:
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dic_syno ... 0%BD%D1%82
Палефорон, синонимы:
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dic_syno ... 0%BE%D0%BD
Все три слова - синонимы.
365: Splinter:
> Все три слова - синонимы.
Не. Обскурант, насколько помнится, это синоним мракобеса.
Ретроград и мракобес — несколько про разное всё ж таки.
> Все три слова - синонимы.
Не. Обскурант, насколько помнится, это синоним мракобеса.
Ретроград и мракобес — несколько про разное всё ж таки.
366: BadBlock:
> Не. Обскурант, насколько помнится, это синоним мракобеса.
МРАКОБЕ́С, мракобеса, муж. (публиц.). Враг прогресса, просвещения, обскурант.
Синонимы:
догматик, обскурант, обскурантист, реакционер, ретроград, ястреб
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ushakov/864306
> Ретроград и мракобес — несколько про разное всё ж таки.
Про одно и то же, если не суживать понятие "мракобес" только религиозной составляющей.
Мракобес - это не только про религию.
> Не. Обскурант, насколько помнится, это синоним мракобеса.
МРАКОБЕ́С, мракобеса, муж. (публиц.). Враг прогресса, просвещения, обскурант.
Синонимы:
догматик, обскурант, обскурантист, реакционер, ретроград, ястреб
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ushakov/864306
> Ретроград и мракобес — несколько про разное всё ж таки.
Про одно и то же, если не суживать понятие "мракобес" только религиозной составляющей.
Мракобес - это не только про религию.
Кстати о Grammar Nazi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM
INT. STONE COTTAGE ENTRYWAY – DAY
KNOCKING on the door. It opens to COLONEL HANZ LANDER, a friendly seeming military soldier.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Good morning monsieur La Pedite, I am Colonel Hanz Lander of the SS. I was hoping you could invite me inside your home and we could have a discussion.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Of course Monsieur.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Now as you may have heard, I am in charge of rounding up all the Jews in this village.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Yes I have heard that.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Are you aware of any Jews hiding in the area?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
No, I assure you there haven’t been no Jews in this village.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
There haven’t been “no” Jews? So there have been some Jews?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
No sorry, I meant, there haven’t been any Jews. No Jews here.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Sorry, I was confused by your double negative. You see grammar is very important to the Nazi party.
He picks up the pen and begins reading his note pad.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER (CONT.)
Now are you familiar with one Shoshanna Dreifus?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Yes, I know her. Me and her buy our milk at the same market.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Me and her? Surely you meant to say she and I?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Yes, of course.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
The trick is to take the other person out of the sentence to see if it makes sense. “Me buy milk”; I think not. “I buy milk”; you see?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
I swear I do not know where Ms. Dreifus is at.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Did you just end the sentence with a preposition?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Forgive me colonel.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
When was the last time you saw the Jew Driefus?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
About a month ago I was walking by the river Byron and I saw Dreifus fishing and so I went down to the river bank to see if it was her but I couldn’t get a good view.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
(Laughing)
Did you really think I was so stupid I wouldn’t recognize a run on sentence?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Sorry there was no Jews here.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Jew or Jews? Plural?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Plural.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Wrong! You have to match your subject with your verb.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
What do you want from me?
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
I’ve heard from numerous sources that you are hiding Mademoiselle Dreifus.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
From who?
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
From whom.
Colonel Hanz Lander puts his pistol on the wood table. All is quiet.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Don’t kill me. Please.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Monsieur La Pedite, I have one more question for you. If you answer correctly, I will leave you and your family at peace. If not, you are coming with me. Now, let’s say you were writing a list, would you or would you not put a comma before the “and”.
SHOSHANNA DREIFUS (V.O)
It depends on whether you are following the Chicago Manual of Style or the Associated Press Guide.
Colonel Hanz Lander looks down at the floor next to him.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Hiding under the floorboards, I have finally found you.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Wait! You are hiding under the floorboard or is she?
SHOSHANNA DREIFUS (V.O)
A dangling participle.
He stares in horror.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
A dangling participle.
Colonel Hanz Lander puts the gun to his chin and pulls the trigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM
INT. STONE COTTAGE ENTRYWAY – DAY
KNOCKING on the door. It opens to COLONEL HANZ LANDER, a friendly seeming military soldier.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Good morning monsieur La Pedite, I am Colonel Hanz Lander of the SS. I was hoping you could invite me inside your home and we could have a discussion.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Of course Monsieur.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Now as you may have heard, I am in charge of rounding up all the Jews in this village.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Yes I have heard that.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Are you aware of any Jews hiding in the area?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
No, I assure you there haven’t been no Jews in this village.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
There haven’t been “no” Jews? So there have been some Jews?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
No sorry, I meant, there haven’t been any Jews. No Jews here.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Sorry, I was confused by your double negative. You see grammar is very important to the Nazi party.
He picks up the pen and begins reading his note pad.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER (CONT.)
Now are you familiar with one Shoshanna Dreifus?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Yes, I know her. Me and her buy our milk at the same market.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Me and her? Surely you meant to say she and I?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Yes, of course.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
The trick is to take the other person out of the sentence to see if it makes sense. “Me buy milk”; I think not. “I buy milk”; you see?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
I swear I do not know where Ms. Dreifus is at.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Did you just end the sentence with a preposition?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Forgive me colonel.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
When was the last time you saw the Jew Driefus?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
About a month ago I was walking by the river Byron and I saw Dreifus fishing and so I went down to the river bank to see if it was her but I couldn’t get a good view.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
(Laughing)
Did you really think I was so stupid I wouldn’t recognize a run on sentence?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Sorry there was no Jews here.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Jew or Jews? Plural?
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Plural.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Wrong! You have to match your subject with your verb.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
What do you want from me?
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
I’ve heard from numerous sources that you are hiding Mademoiselle Dreifus.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
From who?
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
From whom.
Colonel Hanz Lander puts his pistol on the wood table. All is quiet.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Don’t kill me. Please.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Monsieur La Pedite, I have one more question for you. If you answer correctly, I will leave you and your family at peace. If not, you are coming with me. Now, let’s say you were writing a list, would you or would you not put a comma before the “and”.
SHOSHANNA DREIFUS (V.O)
It depends on whether you are following the Chicago Manual of Style or the Associated Press Guide.
Colonel Hanz Lander looks down at the floor next to him.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
Hiding under the floorboards, I have finally found you.
MONSIEUR LA PEDITE
Wait! You are hiding under the floorboard or is she?
SHOSHANNA DREIFUS (V.O)
A dangling participle.
He stares in horror.
COLONEL HANZ LANDER
A dangling participle.
Colonel Hanz Lander puts the gun to his chin and pulls the trigger.
Интересно, и говорит предельно понятно для русских, кмк.
What Happens When You're Drunk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDp1wyPAS8
What Happens When You're Drunk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDp1wyPAS8
Простенькое, но для наглядного пособия детям вполне подойдет.
373: BadBlock:
Бгы-гы.
Интересно, и какое же отношение детей к наркотикам? Пять к одному, один к трем или вообще 0,75:8,73?
Бгы-гы.
Интересно, и какое же отношение детей к наркотикам? Пять к одному, один к трем или вообще 0,75:8,73?
"Как выглядят Русские употребляющие иностранные слова, в глазах американца Тима Кёрби"
Почему нельзя "Москва-сити", что такое "тюнинг", чем "хэндмейд" отличается от "хоуммейд".
Американец рассказывает о том, что его коробит в англицизмах/американизмах у русских.
Рассказывает по-русски, слушал с интересом.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srrTPMjRRsU
Почему нельзя "Москва-сити", что такое "тюнинг", чем "хэндмейд" отличается от "хоуммейд".
Американец рассказывает о том, что его коробит в англицизмах/американизмах у русских.
Рассказывает по-русски, слушал с интересом.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srrTPMjRRsU
An elderly woman walked into the Royal Bank of Ireland one morning with a purse full of money. She wanted to open a savings account and insisted on talking to the president of the Bank because, she said, she had a lot of money.
After many lengthy discussions (after all, the client is always right) an employee took the elderly woman to the president's office.
The president of the Bank asked her how much she wanted to deposit. She placed her purse on his desk and replied, '$165,000'.
The president was curious and asked her how she had been able to save so much money . The elderly woman replied that she made bets.
The president was surprised and asked, 'What kind of bets?'
The elderly woman replied, 'Well, I bet you $25,000 that your testicles are square.'
The president started to laugh and told the woman that it was impossible to win a bet like that.
The woman never batted an eye. She just looked at the president and said, 'Would you like to take my bet?'
'Certainly', replied the president. 'I bet you $25,000 that my testicles are not square.'
'Done', the elderly woman answered. 'But given the amount of money involved, if you don't mind I would like to come back at 10 ' clock tomorrow morning with my lawyer as a witness.' 'No problem', said the president of the Bank confidently.
That night, the president became very nervous about the bet and spent a long time in front of the mirror examining his testicles, turning them this way and that, checking them over again and again until he was positive that no one could consider his testicles as square and reassuring himself that there was no way he could lose the bet.
The next morning at exactly 10 o'clock the elderly woman arrived at the president's office with her lawyer and acknowledged the $25,000 bet made the day before that the president's testicles were square.
The president confirmed that the bet was the same as the one made the day before. Then the elderly woman asked him to drop his pants etc. so that she and her lawyer could see clearly.
The president was happy to oblige.
The elderly woman came closer so she could see better and asked
the president if she could touch them. 'Of course', said the president. 'Given the amount of money involved, you should be 100% sure.'
The elderly woman did so with a little smile. Suddenly the president noticed that the lawyer was banging his head against the wall. He asked the elderly woman why he was doing that and she replied, 'Oh, it's probably because I bet him $100,000 that around 10 o'clock in the morning I would be holding the balls of the President of the Royal Bank of Ireland .'
After many lengthy discussions (after all, the client is always right) an employee took the elderly woman to the president's office.
The president of the Bank asked her how much she wanted to deposit. She placed her purse on his desk and replied, '$165,000'.
The president was curious and asked her how she had been able to save so much money . The elderly woman replied that she made bets.
The president was surprised and asked, 'What kind of bets?'
The elderly woman replied, 'Well, I bet you $25,000 that your testicles are square.'
The president started to laugh and told the woman that it was impossible to win a bet like that.
The woman never batted an eye. She just looked at the president and said, 'Would you like to take my bet?'
'Certainly', replied the president. 'I bet you $25,000 that my testicles are not square.'
'Done', the elderly woman answered. 'But given the amount of money involved, if you don't mind I would like to come back at 10 ' clock tomorrow morning with my lawyer as a witness.' 'No problem', said the president of the Bank confidently.
That night, the president became very nervous about the bet and spent a long time in front of the mirror examining his testicles, turning them this way and that, checking them over again and again until he was positive that no one could consider his testicles as square and reassuring himself that there was no way he could lose the bet.
The next morning at exactly 10 o'clock the elderly woman arrived at the president's office with her lawyer and acknowledged the $25,000 bet made the day before that the president's testicles were square.
The president confirmed that the bet was the same as the one made the day before. Then the elderly woman asked him to drop his pants etc. so that she and her lawyer could see clearly.
The president was happy to oblige.
The elderly woman came closer so she could see better and asked
the president if she could touch them. 'Of course', said the president. 'Given the amount of money involved, you should be 100% sure.'
The elderly woman did so with a little smile. Suddenly the president noticed that the lawyer was banging his head against the wall. He asked the elderly woman why he was doing that and she replied, 'Oh, it's probably because I bet him $100,000 that around 10 o'clock in the morning I would be holding the balls of the President of the Royal Bank of Ireland .'
376: BadBlock пишет:
> The president was curious and asked her how she had been able to save so much money . The elderly woman replied that she made bets.
Мне эта версия анекдота больше нравится
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moAZ3AsyhLU
> The president was curious and asked her how she had been able to save so much money . The elderly woman replied that she made bets.
Мне эта версия анекдота больше нравится
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moAZ3AsyhLU
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Игрек
Обсуждение на Reddit.com, пишут всякое:Teens who take nude selfie photos face adult sex charges - After a 16-year-old girl made a sexually explicit nude photo of herself for her boyfriend last fall, the Sheriff's Office concluded that she committed two felony sex crimes against herself and arrested her in February
hedic
Did they just charge her as an adult for being a minor? Thats like jedi level lawyering.
AdmiralAkbar
Call the American olympic team, we have a new candidate for top mental gymnastics.
Legal1777ghe
As a lawyer who has handled these types of issues on a pro bono basis (my other work involves complex litigation), these crazy news stories and incidents result from inconsistency between state and federal law, especially with respect to the age of consent laws. In 36 states, the age of consent is 16 without any close in age exceptions. What that means is that a 16 year old boy or girl can have sex with a person of any age in these 16 states. In these 36 states, the state legislature and governor has decided that a 16 year old is mature enough to make informed decisions about sex.
However, federal law criminalizes any pornographic images of any person under age 18. Therefore, the person who can legally have sex with anyone of any age becomes a federal child pornography producer when she/he takes naked photos, which is punishable by a 15-year minimum federal sentence, and the person receiving the photos is guilty of receipt of child pornography, which averages around 7 years in federal prison (not to mention lifetime registration as a sex offender). Logically, if a 16 year old can have vagina/anal/oral sex with anyone—man or woman—of any age, he or she should be able to take a photo of their genitals. But that is not what federal law states.
The weirdness doesn't stop there. If any 18 year old crosses the state line from Kansas City, Missouri to Kansas City, Kansas to have sex with his 16 year old girlfriend, he is potentially guilty of travel to have illicit sex under federal law, which results in an average 12 year federal sentence. This is true even though the age of consent in Kansas is 16. College students traveling home to have sex with their 17 year old girlfriends are at risk of becoming “child sex predators.”
Although I am not in any way defending Jared Fogel because he was in possession of photos of young children, the most serious charge against him was traveling to have commercial sex with a 17 year old prostitute. She was above the age of consent, but because she was paid, it was a federal crime. Technically, giving your 17 year old girlfriend a necklace to convince her to sleep with you is a federal crime punishable by up to life in federal prison. A 17 year old boy taking his 17 year old girlfriend across state lines to have sex is considered sex trafficking even though the age of consent in both states is 16.
Under Texas law, the age of consent is 17. Under the Texas Penal Code, a 17 year old girl is legally allowed to film herself having sex with someone else, but under federal law, it is a serious federal offense. So, in Texas, sexting above the age of consent is legal, but not under federal law.
Even more remarkably, the age of consent on federal property (e.g, military bases, the bathroom of a federal court, or national parks) is 16 years old, yet other federal statutes (child porn and travel to have sex) are based on 18 being the age of consent. So on a military base, a 16 year old can have sex with a 72 year old man, but she can’t send a picture of her genitals to a high school classmate.
Although the vast majority of federal and state prosecutors recognize these type of cases create crazy results and will refuse to prosecute (or offer plea bargains), that is not always the case. There are plenty of prosecutors who see this as a moral crusade or a career builder and pursue these type of cases. I have seen a 19 year old sent to federal prison for 9 years for filing himself and his 17 year old girlfriend having sex (in a state where the age of consent is 16). I have seen a 30 year old sent to prison for 17 years for receiving two naked photos from a 17 year old (who took them in a state where the age of consent was 16).
Something needs to be done to reconcile these inconsistencies. One approach is to set a national age of consent of 18. The federal government could pass a law stating that no one under the age of 18 can have sex, photograph sex, etc in any state in the country. Of course, this ignores the reality that people start having sex at a much younger age than 18. Indeed, 36 states have decided that anyone over the age of 16 is entitled to have sex with anyone of any age (and many other states have close in age exceptions).
Another approach is to change the law so that in states where someone is allowed to have sex at 16, they are allowed to photograph themselves at 16 having sex or naked so long as there is no duress or payment being made. Perhaps the most realistic approach would be to set a national age of consent at 16 and adjust the corresponding federal statutes to age 16. However, that realistic approach would never be accepted by parents who can’t imagine their 16 year old sons or daughters having sex. We are in a hyper-phase of fear over these crimes, which is why you read about absurd cases every few days. No politician or prosecutor would dare take a logical approach to these crimes. A larger number of normal and harmless teenagers and young adults are being labelled as sex offenders because of this over reaction.
This case is the legal equivalent of accusing a teenager who tries to commit suicide of attempted murder, calling her to testify at trial against herself, and then having her offer a victim's impact statement to herself.
EDIT: As someone correctly pointed out, in states where the age of consent is 16, this mean's someone above that age can legally have sex with anyone of any age above the age of consent (or within otherwise applicable close in age exceptions AKA Romeo and Juliet provisions)--not anyone of any age below the age of consent. Also, if you have a concern about age of consent laws and close in age exceptions in a particular state, be sure to check the actual statute, not an internet resource.
EDIT 2: I am offering my personal opinion, informed by my experience, about some of the absurd results that can arise in these cases and the very complex issues that arise under federal sex crime laws. I am only addressing hypothetical questions and not offering specific legal advice. If you have a specific legal question about a specific matter, talk to an attorney who represents you or do your own research. Nothing posted on an online forum is privileged or protected by the attorney client relationship. I am discussing general concepts of law and my experience with how the judicial system works.
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Полный список неправильных английских глаголов.
Полный список неправильных английских глаголов.
380: Splinter:
Полный???
А чего он такой маленький?
Полный???
А чего он такой маленький?
381: Злец:
А вот так вот!
А вот так вот!
Интересно, кто-то и правда учит глаголы по подобным простыням? ))
383: BadBlock:
Мы учили не так.
То есть какую-то часть по небольшому плакатику, который у нас в кабинете (номер не помню, на четвертом этаже, рядом с малым спортзалом, ты должен помнить ) висел: там глаголов примерно тридцать было, самых распространенных.
А потом уже по ходу учебы, все встречавшиеся в текстах глаголы выписывали в специально разлинованную тетрадочку!
У нас их две было, одна типа словарика: слово - транскрипция - перевод и вот с глаголами неправильными вторая.
Мы учили не так.
То есть какую-то часть по небольшому плакатику, который у нас в кабинете (номер не помню, на четвертом этаже, рядом с малым спортзалом, ты должен помнить
) висел: там глаголов примерно тридцать было, самых распространенных.А потом уже по ходу учебы, все встречавшиеся в текстах глаголы выписывали в специально разлинованную тетрадочку!
У нас их две было, одна типа словарика: слово - транскрипция - перевод и вот с глаголами неправильными вторая.
384: Splinter:
Не, ну когда самое основное, а потом постепенно, то понятно.
А то в интернете постят кучей — то выражения на все случаи жизни, то вот неправильные глаголы, не могу сообразить, как по этим жутким спискам можно что-то запомнить, их же просто до конца дочитать умрёшь уже.
Не, ну когда самое основное, а потом постепенно, то понятно.
А то в интернете постят кучей — то выражения на все случаи жизни, то вот неправильные глаголы, не могу сообразить, как по этим жутким спискам можно что-то запомнить, их же просто до конца дочитать умрёшь уже.
385: BadBlock:
> как по этим жутким спискам можно что-то запомнить
Да фиг знает.
Детям такой список давать "Вот, читай, смотри и запоминай" - это без шансов.
Мои оба-два учат тоже постепенно: тут услышал, тут прочитал, один за другим и запоминают.
Плюс я дома периодически им включаю обучающий английский канал, вот этот: там по-простому разжевывают разное, плюс всегда указывают для какого уровня знания языка подготовлена следующая передача.
> как по этим жутким спискам можно что-то запомнить
Да фиг знает.
Детям такой список давать "Вот, читай, смотри и запоминай" - это без шансов.
Мои оба-два учат тоже постепенно: тут услышал, тут прочитал, один за другим и запоминают.
Плюс я дома периодически им включаю обучающий английский канал, вот этот: там по-простому разжевывают разное, плюс всегда указывают для какого уровня знания языка подготовлена следующая передача.
Английские карлы, клары и кораллы: шотландец пытается выговорить фразу "purple burgular alarm"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us4_Wllv65w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us4_Wllv65w
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385: BadBlock:
384: Splinter:
Кто у вас вел английский?
Всегда своих учителей вспоминаю с благодарностью, особенно по английскому. Мне кажется, сейчас уже так не учат.
384: Splinter:
Кто у вас вел английский?
Всегда своих учителей вспоминаю с благодарностью, особенно по английскому. Мне кажется, сейчас уже так не учат.
388: ашатанка:
> Кто у вас вел английский?
Зубарева и Цветкова.
> Кто у вас вел английский?
Зубарева и Цветкова.
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